Well I mean, they have nothing in terms of an argument or a coherent worldview or a useful praxis but what they do have is they are speaking on behalf of a hegemonic liberalism that's going to get us all fucking killed. I agree, don't talk to them, but because they're a distraction from the real fucking problem, which is that fascism arises from the collapse of institutional legitimacy of liberal institutions.

That's how we got fucking Trump, that's how we get what's coming next after him that's gonna be even worse. Because if you think there's not gonna be more ecological and economic catastrophes in the future that liberalism is wholly unequipped to deal with, and that that failure isn't gonna lead to fascism filling that fucking hole, then you've got another thing coming.

And that's what these guys are, these guys that marched in Charlottesville, these are the people who are aware of the unspoken premise of this sort of zombie neoliberalism that we're living in, which is that we're coming to a point where there's gonna be ecological catastrophe, and that it's gonna require either massive redistribution of the ill-gotten gains of the first world, or genocide.

And these are the first people who have basically said, "Well if that's the choice, then I choose genocide", and they're getting everyone else ready, intellectually and emotionally, for why that's gonna be okay when it happens, why they're not really people. When we're putting all this money into more fucking walls and drones and bombs and guns to keep them away, so that we can watch them die with clear consciences, it's because we've been loaded with the ideology that these guys are now starting to express publicly.

On the other side of them, we have people who are saying in full fucking voice, "No, we have the resources to save everybody, to give everybody a decent and worthwhile existence, and that is what we want." And that is the fucking real difference between these two, and you can tell that to the next asshole who tells you that they're actually two sides of the same coin.

Matt Christman from Chapo on post Charlottesville episode, 8.17.20217, that I think of always all this time later. The fears from past that became the vision of the future.